Playing Above the Line is an entertaining and thought-provoking podcast that takes a peek into the daily lives of community and business leaders. The hosts of Playing Above the Line are hb&k shareholders, Allen Cave and Dennis Sherrin. As CPAs, they’ve had the unique opportunity to meet many different leaders through their years of partnering with entrepreneurs.

By sharing these stories, we’re uncovering different views of the path to growth, leadership, and achieving success.


Mark Kellerman has been in the corrugated box business since 1993 with my current employer Gulf Packaging since 2006. His territory is from east of Tallahassee to the Louisiana state line. Mark has been Involved with Kiwanis since 2001. Previously, he’s served as a Club Secretary, President, Division Lt Governor and Mark is now currently Alabama District Vice Governor. Additionally, he shares time time by serving on the Board for United Cerebral Palsy of Mobile.

To learn more about Mark, please visit his website, Facebook or Twitter!

Casey Gay Williams has been serving as the President of the Eastern Shore Chamber of Commerce since 2016. After spending 35 years in the banking industry, she brings a wealth of knowledge, experience, enthusiasm, and passion to her role at the Chamber. Casey has dedicated countless hours to service – including some of her current roles serving as Chairman of the National Auburn MBA Advisory Board and President of the Baldwin Humane Society.

To learn more about everything the Chamber does for our community follow them on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram (@easternshorecc)!

Tune in to listen to the one and only, William Stitt, better known as Bill-E the bacon man! He is the owner of Bill-e’s (recently changed from Old 27 Grill), which a casual dining restaurant and grocery store that makes its own house-cured bacon. If you’re ever on the Eastern Shore of Baldwin County in Fairhope, Alabama, be sure to check it out! In this episode, you’ll learn the story of how Bill-e’s Bacon started as a class project and developed into the best bacon there is around.

For bacon, swag, and pictures that will make you drool, check out Bille’s Facebook page and follow him on Twitter.

Michelle Hodges is the President of SH Enterprises – which holds Meyer Vacation Rentals, Meyer Services, Starr Textile Services and Century 21 Meyer Real Estate. Along with a fantastic story of how George Meyer created the tourism industry in Gulf Shores, you’ll hear Michelle’s explain about how she landed back in her hometown doing the exact job she never planned to do – working in the family business. She shares how she built trust in her co-workers and expertise in the business by starting at the front desk and working up to her current position and explains her current success is due to the talents of her team.

Check out Discover Alabama Beaches for tips on how to save and ways to make your vacation to the Gulf Coast memorable!

Follow @MeyerVacations  on Twitter to stay up to date on all their news!

Sandra Wiley  is the President of Boomer Consulting, Inc. In this episode, Sandra shares her views on leadership saying it’s not something you can just “get” from a class. In her view, you need to internalize leadership lessons and act what you’ve learned. She explains that leadership is not a stagnant personality trait – it’s something you must develop, and when you make a mistake, you learn and change.

To learn more about Boomer Consulting, Inc. follow them on Twitter @thinkplangrow

Angela Weil is an entrepreneur, CFO and business owner. She is passionate about teaching business development, management, finance, and entrepreneurship. Currently, Angela owns and operates Stone Interiors, a regional countertop manufacturing company with her husband, Dustin. They’ve also developed and own a franchised hospitality enterprise and other real estate development & investments. On this episode of Playing Above the Line, Angela shares more about her successful business model and how as a leader, the way to get yourself out of the weeds is to empower your team.

Visit Stone Interior’s Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram to see their beautiful work & learn more!

In this episode, we’re talking to Rick Miller! Rick has over 30 years experience working in both public and private companies in financial operational and administrative roles. Rick is the founder of Pro365 Consulting, LLC, which provides Executive Coaching and helps organizations improve productivity and increase profitability. Most recently, Rick helped open Hatch in Fairhope, Alabama, which is a resource hub for technology-based entrepreneurs in Baldwin County. Today, Rick talks to us about how through his path, how his methodology and leadership style has done a 180 and now he focuses on PEOPLE – building relationships and focusing on their strengths.

Joining us today is Danny Corte! He is the Executive Director for Mobile Sports Authority, which is responsible for attracting, assisting, and/or managing visiting sporting events which utilize the sports facilities in Mobile County, Alabama. Today you’ll hear how he believes relying on “Blocking & Tackling” basics are really what a leader needs to be successful. Some of those basics Danny relies on are – listening, focusing on small details to create the best overall results, and being accountable to yourself.

Dr. Kenneth Varner is the superintendent of Brewton City Schools. He has a long history of service, beginning with his service to our county in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. He holds numerous leadership roles in civic clubs, community organizations, college advisory boards, statewide education committees, and as a church Deacon. Our interview with Dr. Varner is an engaging look into the lessons he’s learned about leadership through his career. Today you’ll hear his views on getting people on board with your plan, how to balance relationships versus tasks, and how success is achievable as long as you have the two qualities of likability & credibility.

Donna Watts is the President of the South Baldwin Chamber of Commerce.  She has a long history in being involved in community boards.  Donna’s views on leadership focus on the importance of being selfless and listening so you are able to have a true dialogue.  She believes one of the most important pieces of reaching success with a team or project is getting the right training.  In this episode of Playing Above the Line, you will learn how Donna practices what she preaches in her leadership of the South Baldwin Chamber of Commerce and its current initiatives.  Check out their Facebook page here.

Vanessa Reyner is the co-founder of Full & Well, a weekly Christian newsletter subscription.  In this episode, she describes how an influential shift in her career path happened when she changed her mindset from “a job is something I DO” to “my job is something I do for OTHERS”.  She believes being purposeful in her career choices has lead her to greater success and fulfillment.  At the end of the episode, Vanessa mentions participating in a Tedx Talk at Spring Hill College – you can now watch that Tedx Talk by clicking here.


Allen Cave
I’m a shareholder at hb&k. Working as a partner with business leaders to help them achieve their goals has been my favorite part of my career. I wanted to start this podcast to give these people a platform to share their stories.

Dennis Sherrin
I’m the managing shareholder of hb&k and have worked with business leaders through my entire career. There are so many how-to books on success and leadership out there, but I’ve always most enjoyed learning about these experiences from people and I am excited to get this chance to talk to so many entrepreneurs and leaders to hear their stories.

Deep Fried Studios
This is where we record & produce our show. Thanks to Johnny Gwin for creating this innovative space where we care share these stories.

In this episode, the listener gets to know the podcast cohosts. Dennis Sherrin and Allen Cave are shareholders of an accounting and business consulting firm, Hartmann, Blackmon & Kilgore, P.C. Throughout their careers as CPAs and advisors, they’ve had the unique opportunity to meet, advise and learn from business leaders in a variety of industries. They wanted to share some of the amazing success stories with you.